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Anthropic CEO Trump dinner, Truecaller web scams, Google AI India shopping

2026-09-28 · 6 min

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Intro

Priya: The company that built its empire on your phone is now desperately trying to get off your phone.

Theo: I'm Theo.

Priya: And I'm Priya.

Theo: And this is Money Daily for Monday, September 28th, 2026. Today, we're tracking where your money and data are headed next.

Theo: Coming up: the world's biggest caller ID app is making a surprising move to fight scams online. We'll ask why now.

Priya: Also, a very interesting dinner date: the CEO of a top AI company is sitting down with President Trump.

Theo: And Google wants you to shop by just talking to its AI. We've got the details on their new test.

Truecaller takes its scam intelligence to the open web as it looks beyond caller ID

Theo: Alright, let's start with Truecaller. Priya, most of us know them for one thing: telling you who's calling, right?

Priya: Exactly. That massive database they use to flag spam calls? They're now putting a piece of it on the open web, no app required.

Theo: So you can just punch a number into a website and see if it's a scammer? Sounds like a win for everyone.

Priya: It sounds great, which is exactly why you have to ask: why now? Why give away the secret sauce for free?

Theo: Because their core business is under threat. Especially in India, their biggest market, where the government is about to force all phone companies to show caller ID by default.

Priya: Ah. So if every phone does what Truecaller does... you don't need Truecaller. Suddenly a free web tool makes a lot of sense as a way to keep the brand relevant.

Theo: It's a pivot. They're moving from just 'caller ID' to being a broader 'scam intelligence' company.

Priya: But isn't this just another way to get data? You go to their site, you search a number, maybe you enter your number... it’s all feeding the machine.

Theo: Maybe. But the upside is huge. Think about your parents or less tech-savvy relatives. Telling them to go to a website is way easier than making them install and configure an app.

Priya: [sighs] So look, you're getting a useful new tool to check a sketchy number. Just remember nothing's really free. You are still the product.

Theo: A slightly more protected product, in this case.

Anthropic’s CEO is about to have dinner with President Trump

Priya: Alright, let's talk about AI and political power. Theo, guess who's having dinner with Donald Trump?

Theo: Oh no. Let me guess... some tech billionaire.

Priya: Dario Amodei, the CEO of Anthropic. They make the Claude AI.

Theo: Wait— Anthropic? The company that broke away from OpenAI over safety concerns? That Dario Amodei is having a one-on-one dinner with Donald Trump?

Priya: First one-on-one meeting, according to TechCrunch. You can call it a lot of things, but let's be clear what it is: lobbying.

Theo: Wow. So what are they even talking about? AI's potential to... make America great? I don't get it.

Priya: They're talking about regulation, government contracts... who gets to write the rules for the most important technology of our time. Amodei wants a seat at the table, and Trump wants to look like he's on the cutting edge.

Theo: So it's not a policy debate, it's about money.

Priya: This is about so much money. The cash that will flow into AI from government spending will make venture capital look like pocket change. A dinner like this is an investment.

Theo: So the future of AI isn't being decided in a lab, it's being decided over steak with politicians. Those guardrails we keep talking about? They're being negotiated right now.

Priya: Exactly. And you're not on the guest list.

Google tests buying from Walmart-owned Flipkart through Gemini and AI Mode in India

Theo: Alright, let's stick with AI but switch to shopping. Google's testing a new way to buy things in India, using its Gemini AI.

Priya: Let me guess. It's designed to make you spend money faster.

Theo: [laughs] Maybe a little. The test lets you buy products from Flipkart—Walmart's company in India—just by talking to Gemini. You literally just say what you want.

Priya: So I can just say, 'Hey Google, my life feels empty, buy me something shiny from Flipkart,' and it will?

Theo: Basically! It's part of Gemini's 'AI Mode'. It’s a limited test for now, but they plan to roll it out more widely in October. This is Google and Walmart teaming up to make a run at Amazon in India.

Priya: They call it 'reducing friction.' I call it removing the pause where you look at your credit card and think, 'Do I really need this?'

Theo: Come on, it's cool technology! Imagine you're cooking, your hands are dirty, and you realize you're out of olive oil. You just shout at your phone, and it's on its way. That's the dream!

Priya: And when the AI 'helpfully' suggests the artisanal, cold-pressed, twice-as-expensive olive oil because its algorithm knows you're a sucker for marketing? What then?

Theo: Okay, that's a fair point. There's a risk of being upsold by a robot.

Priya: Look, 'conversational commerce' is coming for your wallet. It's designed to be seamless, which just means it's designed to make you spend without thinking. Your budget's last line of defense is about to get a lot weaker.

Theo: So, to quickly recap: Truecaller is launching a free web tool to check for scams, right as its main business faces new pressure in India.

Priya: The worlds of big tech and big politics are colliding over dinner with Anthropic's CEO and Donald Trump. And Google is teaming up with Walmart to let you shop just by talking to your AI.

Theo: Priya, before we go, completely unrelated: did you know today is National Good Neighbor Day?

Priya: [dry] Is it? My neighbors are surprisingly quiet. I assume the best.

Theo: Well, maybe a good neighborly deed today would be warning someone about a scam call... you could even send them a link to that new Truecaller site. See? It all comes together.

Theo: That's our show! This was Money Daily for Monday, September 28th, 2026.

Priya: We'll be back tomorrow. Until then, maybe hold off on letting an AI manage your shopping list.

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